Following the Army’s loss to FK Moskva, Juande Ramos parted way with CSKA, ending a 47 day tenure that leaves more questions than answers in its wake. In this RFN QuickCast, hosts Chris Riordan and Richard Farley discuss the news, speculating as to what the real story is behind CSKA’s announcement and analyzing where this leaves CSKA’s Premier and Champions League campaigns.
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Thinking this over, I’m in agreement with you guys. Ramos must have made the decision to leave. With that said, following Richard’s suggestion, if Ramos doesn’t take a position in the next few weeks it will seem more likely that CSKA actually pulled the trigger. Hopefully that is not the case (in my opinion), because given their decent position in both UCL and the RPL switching the coach at this pivotal point in the campaign is a major gamble. Changing personnel can have a positive effect on players performance (see Zenit this year), but switching twice could leave the players second guessing the administration’s long-term objectives.
The only piece of this puzzle that has me second guessing the idea that Ramos decided to leave is the fact that CSKA decided to sign Slutsky to a three year deal. If CSKA had to rush to find someone to step in, why would they give him such a deal? Personally speaking, he strikes me as a short term solution–not a manager you want to build a team around in the future. But, as always, I’d love to hear people correct me.
From the begining Juande Ramos & CSKA was a mistake. He is just a coach for small teams in Spain and not a crative tactician as he showed in Tottenham and Real Madrid. He can just keep the lines and try to Clean Sheet in games. Is a coach who cann´t make better a team.
And.. what is expected in a team who have sold Zhirkov and was left by Wagner Love? CSKA was eastern football best team in early XXI century, but now Shakthar, Dinamo Kíev, Zenit and of course Rubin are doing things better. CSKA needs better players if the are going to ask coaches about success. But instead of this Krasic is gona leave CSKA on december and they have sign Leonid Slutsky as new coach !!! OMG Slutsky is so far the worst tactician in RPL: every Krilya Sovetov game is a kaos and his departure is just a good notice for Savin (reverve foward in Samara). Well, too bad: CSKA is the first place where Zico was not succesfully… By now they are loosing themselfs.
…Bodzovic is the man.
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Savicevic:
Welcome to the blog. I saw that you’ve commented elsewhere, and I will respond to those (as well as in private), but it’s great to have more people talking to us about Russian Football, particularly people who are like us: not in Russia, looking for outlets.
As everybody who listens to our podcasts know, I didn’t think this was a good fit, and I’m not shocked that Ramos is gone. I think it’s really unfortunately for the Premier League that it has played out like this, and I think it’s a poor reflection on the start of the Army’s club.
I think it’s a critical time for CSKA, with a number of potential defections this winter. Krasic could go. Dzagoev could go. And you have to wonder how this situation will affect Akinfeev’s ability to stay. Akinfeev is getting a lot of exposure through Champions League, and that plus Edwin van der Sar’s impending retirement at Manchester United (if that ever actually happens) could push a price that would have even Akinfeev saying “I should move on.”
CSKA and Rubin both are going to have critical offseasons.
BTW, I hate when I type this much and don’t make it into an actual post
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Andrew:
The three year thing, I feel, is a publicity thing. As we’ve seen through CSKA’s public stance on their last two exodus, perception is (comically) important, and giving Slutsky a three year contract – while weird to us – does reinforce their notion that this was a mutual decision, all is under control … move along, nothing to see here.
Of course, the irony is that CSKA is a big job – not just in Russia, but throughout Europe. If they really wanted to say “all is under control” they could have throw a ton of money at a Spalletti or tried to buy Scolari out of his contract in Uzbekistan. They could have flirted with Jurgen Klinsmann or tried to beat Zenit to the other big Italian candidate, Roberot Mancini.
I want to write more about this, but I need to organize my thoughts, and I need to ask some people about what’s going on in Spain. Obviously, Ramos is going to try and move back there, and … well, I’ll save it for my piece, but I have some suspicions.
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